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Another Iraq thread

PoliticI felt obligated to post this message from John Perry Barlow. He believes (as I do) Dick Cheney is really the architect of current U.S. policy. But he has first hand knowledge and a terrific evaluation of history to effectively persuade me about the real motives behind attacking Iraq. It's all about peace, son. "If one takes the view that war is worse than tyranny and that the latter doesnąt necessarily beget the former, there is a case to be made for global despotism. That case is unfortunately stronger, in the light of history, than the proposition that nations will coexist peacefully if we all try really, really hard to be nice to each other."

I gotta tell you...this guy is a challenging thinker. He makes me reconsider some of my most strongly held prejudices. (And when he says he "experimented" with drugs, I do suspect that a lab notebook was involved.)
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Another Iraq thread
Authored by: dbsmall on Thursday, February 27 2003
In her article, "lust for empire", Jill Nelson almost agrees with him. She agrees that the purpose is American Global Domination. But she thinks the motivation is "lust for empire" rather than his belief that totalitarianism is the only way to keep the peace.
Another Iraq thread
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, February 28 2003

Cheney is a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century, along with Rumsfeld and several other architects of the Bush administration\'s current policies. The PNAC\'s reports (e.g. \"Rebuilding America\'s Defenses\") explicitly call for the US to fight wars in order to demonstrate its military might, with the goal of US hegemony over the world (Barlow got this part sort of right). This doesn\'t jibe with Barlow\'s theory that Cheney et al are just bluffing and really aren\'t interested in war - they\'ve made it quite clear that they want it. Unless their reports were also part of some elaborate bluff, which would be odd considering they weren\'t part of the government when they wrote them.

As for Cheney being a \"man of principle\" and \"indifferent to greed\", I can only assume Barlow is basing this on his personal interactions with the man. The public record paints a very different picture. As CEO of Halliburton, Cheney played accounting tricks to hide liabilities in order to maintain the stock price, then sold $18 million in stock just before it tanked, and finally received a $20 million retirement package he wasn\'t entitled to. All of this while cutting tens of millions in employee retirement benefits. What motivation other than greed would explain this?

There\'s a lot of other tripe in here as well. For one the assertion that the Soviet Union \"capitulated\" in the face of US nuclear superiority and perceived irrationality, when in fact it simply collapsed economically. For another the notion that there was ever a \"symmetrical balance of power\" between the US and USSR. While it\'s true that each could annihilate the other completely, in economic and conventional military terms it was never close.

In any case we\'ll see how this all plays out very soon. Even though I don\'t think it\'s Cheney\'s motivation, I think the scenarios Barlow mentions (coup or exile for Saddam) are probably the best that can be hoped for at this point. At least the Iraqis will be spared from barrages of cruise missiles and who knows what else.

March 17?
Authored by: dbsmall on Thursday, March 06 2003
Cheney's a liar
Authored by: dbsmall on Thursday, July 22 2004
With the Wadministration willing to change their story on a whim, it's sometimes hard to know what they every really said. But here, you've got direct evidence of a lie.